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PostSubject: Re: What's going on?   Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:41 pm

Gorm, I'm not going to argue with you... Wink

I assume that the Dav guys don't like Gorgoroth/funserver, because: suppose they want to lvl another char? Or don't like new players to get to lvl70 fast while they had to do the real work...?
But they will tell you how they feel (I'm off now for the football... cheers)
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PostSubject: Re: What's going on?   Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:27 pm

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Gorm, I'm not going to argue with you... Wink

I assume that the Dav guys don't like Gorgoroth/funserver, because: suppose they want to lvl another char? Or don't like new players to get to lvl70 fast while they had to do the real work...?
But they will tell you how they feel (I'm off now for the football... cheers)


Ok well me to we have to beat the russians later cheers i hope but ofc the have to disside for them selves, but Gorgh is surly no fun server so lets wait and see good luck with the football Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: What's going on?   Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:37 pm

Gorm Ace recieved lots of pms from me and doelo and some others about Iceman. But he just ignored it and we didnt had something back at all. I guess you already know why so many people left iceace? Well if not we moved to another server. Mainly because Iceman screwed things up for Ceasar. He got like 4 temp forum bans for saying his opinion. Well cant he even give his opinion? I find that weird. But well we didnt talked anymore until Minimee came with it. About Iceman being a jerk, And destroying lowlands community. Thats why there aren't many people on iceace because if they need help and Iceman is online they get yelled at. And people dont like that. Of course gms can have a bad day and a bit pissed. But it looks like Iceman is pissed everyday.

And Echidgna dont think so 4k players means more pvp. Faster battlegrounds and arena
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PostSubject: Re: What's going on?   Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:36 pm

@babyface: we both very well know WHY the team left cause of him.. so I see no point of argue with such an answer..

@ new ppl: don't take gizmo to serious in some cases Razz

next:
don't know exactly where to start now.. first of all
after the first stuff with Ice (in wich I received my first forum ban, forum wich supposed to be for the whole team yet one get to decide if he want to ban someone :/)
I send to aceindy 3 pms.. 2 with diffrent forum accounts and 1 with my own account (after the ban)
ingame he calls me stuff like loser, noob etc - I am fully sure that a well thinking person would never call ppl like this without any reason
isn't there any kind of option in wich he doesn't get in contact with players and can peacefully do what he likes?

more questions will probably follow ;p
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PostSubject: Re: What's going on?   Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:03 pm

gorm wrote:
I am fixing problems long before all of you where even born, and i can assure you for every problem there is a solution Smile

Smile) does that mean your like.
40+ Smile) nice nice XD

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PostSubject: Re: What's going on?   Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:56 pm

He has a son... what you expected of him ? That he was 20 or something ?
He wished he was that Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: What's going on?   Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:24 am

Theaker wrote:
gorm wrote:
I am fixing problems long before all of you where even born, and i can assure you for every problem there is a solution Smile

Smile) does that mean your like.
40+ Smile) nice nice XD


Im affraid your right Smile

So basicly im an 40+ idiot thinking hes still 18
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PostSubject: Re: What's going on?   Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:23 am

we are all children who playing with toys Basketball
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PostSubject: Re: What's going on?   Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:24 pm

@ Gorm, Well should I be proud then that I'm for so far the only one on the whole server which let you explode then?Razz

And @ other Dav's , well, gorgoroth and davinci aren't realy a difference @ level 70, although what they said of ppl leveling fast, agree, but you can always raid with yo homies Smile (theaker get yo ars over gorgo soemtime:P coz ur the only horde, well minime was there for a while when I still had my dr00d ^^ we played some together and that wuz fun Smile)

Anyway, ppl have to find out for themsels, ive been on wowlegion aswell and the lag freaked me out as hell Sad
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PostSubject: Re: What's going on?   Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:10 pm

if you gimme a 70 rogue.
with some nice non greenie gear. i might concider pvping there once in a while Razz

but. nah. i wont start lvling there. not an option Razz

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PostSubject: Re: What's going on?   Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:07 pm

Hmm, ok. No more comments ?
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PostSubject: Re: What's going on?   Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:46 pm

well, I described some situation + question wich I didn't get answered..
and I don't think they're the once to help as they're from Gorgoth

guess iceman can just go on with his one-man policy and destroy the whole server till 5, mayb 10 ppl (probably hordes, as I heard he likes horde and hates allie) are left
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PostSubject: Re: What's going on?   Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:23 pm

Never mind the whole situation has back-fired and finaly exploded.

Iceman got so upset he quit the scene alltogether... i.a.w. we've lost a very good developer, and progress is slowed down considerably.

So, thanks to all people involved for scaring him away...

And PS...you are aware his main role wasn't administration, but development?
Not only we suffer from this, but the whole ascent community.
3 years of development knowledge down the drain.

I can still remember me having similar discussion on wodnix forums back then.
Why are you scaring away people developing? They are developing so you can play without bugs. Frankly I am doubting too wether I should continue or not. (and don't say now, who cares for another private server...our server is not important...i am talking about the whole emulator scene...how many are actualy capable of developing an emulator...if there are 10 good coders, it's realy a lot, the rest are mostly script-kiddies).
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PostSubject: Re: What's going on?   Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:51 pm

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So, thanks to all people involved for scaring him away...

what can I say?
sorry that I didn't let him call me a noob, loser, suckah etc?

I could be sorry for the fact that I don't feel sorry at all..
needless to say that this was YOUR mistake aceindy.. if you would have SOLVED the problem instead of ignoring it/moving it on..

seriously.. if he doesn't want to change the server is way better off without him
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PostSubject: Re: What's going on?   Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:17 pm

so again he overreacts.. it wasnt about getting iceman out, just about having him change his attitude towards players a bit..
seems a bit to me like he already wanted to quit before this.
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PostSubject: Re: What's going on?   Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:23 pm

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if he doesn't want to change the server is way better off without him
And is emulation better off without him too ??

And yeah, sure...blame me...i realy wanted to get rid off him...
No, it was the discussion between us afterwards, which made him make the discision he made.
If I needed to choose, I choose Iceman (so we will have progress), player you can find everywhere, developers are scarse.

But...never mind..I can say whatever...people simply won't see the bigger picture.

@doelo...Davinci quit...Iceman quite all after several years
You realy think that is because they don't like to develop anymore?
Ever wondered why we like to develop ??
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PostSubject: Re: What's going on?   Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:59 pm

i suppose i dont have much to say about this iceman, but as for what i have heard its really himself to blame. i mean, if he treat players like trash, he can only expect to get same thing back. allways hard to lose a developer thus lowering the progress of the server but you cant blame the players for "scaring" him away Rolling Eyes he dug his own grave.
guess i have only seen half of the picture though, not even being a player of the server.

Caesar wrote:
needless to say
these words always remind me of Tribute Smile
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PostSubject: Re: What's going on?   Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:43 am

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these words always remind me of Tribute Smile
duh ;p Tenacious D ftw!

@aceindy:
what is your point.. that it's davinci players that are making them leave? Razz
c'mon man... even you can't take that serious
davinci quit for complete other reasons that iceman did. besides, we didn't want iceman to leave.. just to change
but guess that more then just us are missing the bigger picture..
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PostSubject: Re: What's going on?   Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:38 am

Guess all water under the bridge now...

So this leaves us with (see crossroads by Mini):

* good server scripts, far better than WoWlegion and Toxic
* ex-davinci community
* server owner (Aceindy) and a server that will never turn off

Dav community here? I don't know. But...

aceindy wrote:
Ever wondered why we like to develop ??
So far no answers? Anybody?
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PostSubject: Re: What's going on?   Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:08 pm

probably cause he likes it? :/ otherwise he wouldn't keep a server on even if there'd be 0 players on..

btw, is it me or is the forum slowly dieing in the past days? ;p
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PostSubject: Re: What's going on?   Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:35 pm

lol no it was kinda dead already, but just a small (last?) jump made it crawl a little but further...

Anyway, maybe more went on holiday atm...

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probably cause he likes it? :/ otherwise he wouldn't keep a server on even if there'd be 0 players on..
Nah, don't think so, seems like a very stupid idea.... It's a lot of work and what do you get out of it? Just guessing, but suppose you have a real life and family? Doesn't make sense, there's so much other (more important) things u could do with your life...

So any other/better idea's?
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PostSubject: Re: What's going on?   Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:21 pm

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btw, is it me or is the forum slowly dieing in the past days? ;p
it isn't the 1st time this question is asked and still after such a long time ppl still check it out.u never know what happens tomorrow.
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PostSubject: Re: What's going on?   Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:30 pm

yeh, but still I used to check this forum at least twice a day.. with in both times new replies.. now it's barely worth it checking it once every 2 days
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PostSubject: Re: What's going on?   Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:22 pm

that imo also depends on what topics are active

somtimes a vew topics are active where everybody has something to say about.
sometimes there arnt. i think atm were at a not os much active topic time XD?

maybe in a vew days someone starts something which keeps ppl spamming for a vew days again

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PostSubject: Re: What's going on?   Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:42 pm


you worry 2 much Neutral
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